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Title: Sometimes when I pray...
Post by: chet on March 30, 2007, 06:45:44 AM
Sometimes when I pray (fervently about something really important to me)  I get a 'buzzing' sensation in the back of my head. If I keep praying, this extends to a feeling of tingling in my body, mainly I feel it in my feet and legs. If I stay with this, as I have twice now, I've felt I was lifting out of my upper chest. I get the idea I could lift out of my physical body if I would just go with it, but then I immediately get scared and stay 'rooted' so to speak in my body. Can anyone tell me what they think is happening? 
Title: Re: Sometimes when I pray...
Post by: NowIsForever on April 02, 2007, 09:51:36 AM
Hi chet, I hope I am not stating the obvious (but you really don't seem to know.)  What you are describing is the onset of an Out of Body Experience or OBE.  You can research this topic in many ways--the internet is just one possibility.  There is a large collection of literature on these experiences and they can be induced in sundry ways.

Fear is not uncommon to people exploring the possibilities of out of body travel.  Whether you can safely ignore this fear and proceed with the experience is up to you.  I have had nothing but positive experiences, but to some the level of stark terror they have known is profound.  Demons can be lurking in the lower levels of the astral world and they take extreme pleasure in "tearing you apart."  Contrariwise, some of the best times you can experience on earth result from OBEs.

Also the level of consciousness varies from one experience to another.  At times OBEs are dreamlike and occur on the same level (subconscious mind, astral world) as every night dreams.  At other times the OBE seems to be far more real than everyday waking reality.

One thing I can warn you about is to try not to get too excited when having positive experiences.  The likely result of too much excitement is to find yourself back in your body quite abruptly ending an experience you would have savored.

My favorite book on the subject (and it's been thirty years since I've read it--I'd like to read it again):  The Eden Express:  A Memoir of Insanity.  By Mark Vonnegut, son of the famous (sometimes science fiction) writer, Kurt Vonnegut.
Title: Re: Sometimes when I pray...
Post by: NowIsForever on June 22, 2007, 08:43:15 PM
Hi again Chet,

I was wondering if you have had any further experience with the possibility of out of the body travel since your last post.  This is a subject for which I have an intense interest.  Back in the 80's I had a few OBEs, but since then none (unless you count lucid dreaming which I consider only part way there).  I have bought a book:  Adventures Beyond the Body: How to Experience Out-of-Body Travel.  The reviews on amazon.com, where I bought it, were very positive and after I finish my current project which involves the reading of several books, I intend to read it and follow the recommendations in order to reenter the out of body world.

All the best!

     -- Charles
Title: Re: Sometimes when I pray...
Post by: chet on June 25, 2007, 05:40:14 AM
Hi NowIsForever

No, I haven't had anything like that experience since - I'm a bit sad I haven't, I still think about it, it was so odd. Like you, though, I do have quite a lot of lucid dreams, flying dreams etc - highly odd experiences too.

You say you had some OBEs in the 80s but none since. So you actually left your bodY? What did you experience?

I do wonder if one is likely to experience an OBE when facing certain problems in life, challenges etc... I know I got mine (or should I say, the beginning of one) when I was in deep distress for someone I love dearly.
Title: Re: Sometimes when I pray...
Post by: NowIsForever on June 25, 2007, 09:32:48 PM
>>You say you had some OBEs in the 80s but none since. So you actually left your bodY? What did you experience?

Yes, I definitely left my body.  However, it was probably less than five seconds.  But it was one of the most extraordinary experiences of my life!  What it provided me was experiential proof of concept.  I was actively trying to induce an OBE using a technique that I had read about in a book (perhaps by the famous Robert Monroe, not sure).  It involved trying to move my consciousness from its usual location (which I have determined, at least for me, is principally in my head just behind the point between my eyes) to the region in my brain near the center, the location of 'the third eye' or in modern parlance the pineal gland.  After several nights of trying to do this I finally succeeded in leaving.  I was a ball of being leaving my body, a ball of consciousness about 2 inches (5 cm) in diameter.  Also I experienced ‘bilocation,’ the sense of being two places at one time.  As I began to move outward from the center of my head, the ‘me’ in my body was excitedly saying ‘Go! Go! Go!’  Thus I was breaking the rule I told you about earlier concerning not to get excited in the out-of-body state.  I promptly ‘fell’ back into my head and woke up startled.

     -- Charles
Title: Re: Sometimes when I pray...
Post by: chet on July 02, 2007, 05:50:04 AM
Interesting experience...

I did read a book by said Robert Monroe several years ago - but I couldn't finish it. Personally I don't like the idea of trying to bring about an OBE. That's just my personal opinion.
Title: Re: Sometimes when I pray...
Post by: sofia on October 26, 2007, 10:16:49 AM
I had an OBE when I was about 8 yrs old. It wasn't an intentional event, it just kind of happened.
My dad was a pretty strict disciplinarian and it was physical as well as emotional. My sister
and I shared a bed.  One night I had done something that had made him angry and he
sent me to bed crying and a little sore from my punishment. I was thinking how much I hated him for hitting
me all the time and how I just wanted to die so I couldn't get hit anymore.
All of a sudden, I was floating, above me. I floated to the ceiling and turned around facing myself. I looked at my sister
and called to her. She didn't respond. I floated down and touched her cheek so she could see this  unbelieveable thing
happening to me, but she didn't budge. I then realized the form laying next to her was me, so I tried to wake me up.
I couldn't get 'me' to move. The floating was great and all, but I got a little panicky because I didn't know how to get
back into my body. As I hovered above myself, I reached my hands down to find an opening to get back in. I remember thinking
that if I couldn't get back in my body, then maybe I was dead. That made reach toward my upper body, I don't know exactly what
I was looking for, but I knew that I got out, so there had to be a way back in. As I touched my head, I literally felt like I was
being sucked  back into my body through my head. It was the back of my head at the base of my skull.
At the time, I was afraid to tell anyone because it sounded too incredible to be true. To this day, there have only been a few people
that I shared this with. I should say,  until today.  8)
Title: Re: Sometimes when I pray...
Post by: Sam on October 26, 2007, 08:20:16 PM
Thanks very much for sharing your experience with us. It was good to read about it.

Love
 :)
Title: Re: Sometimes when I pray...
Post by: pharmgirl on October 28, 2007, 08:16:15 AM
i believe what you experience is spiritual.if in winter,you walk across a carpeted floor and touch an electrical object (vcr,dvd player ect.) and give off a "shock" or bit of electricity,then why is it hard for us to believe we (in body,mind and soul) can acheive spiritual enlightenment-be it out of body experiences,or even higher perception of what is around us?is it because we conformed as a human race to shun what would be considered "absurd"(visions,signs,or even paranormal experiences)?i believe that we as children of god are his instruments,his vessels,and sometimes we miss his messages to us,or even messages from loved ones from beyond.i say,if when you pray,you have this experience,what a wonderful experience it must be!to be in such a state that you feel as though you can asend from this earthly body,into another realm or plane of spirituality,is truly as encouragement for those seeking a  "higher state of enlightenment".i truly look forward to hearing more of your experiences.-pharmgirl